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Avec les bouleversements mondiaux comme ceux de la COVID et BLM, et nos problèmes personnels habituels, apprendre à gérer le changement est essentiel pour conserver son mojo. Voici comment la coach exécutive Helen Antoniou gère cela.
Helen Antoniou
Helen Antoniou

But ultimately you have a choice on what’s the attitude you’re going to choose to take in these conditions. and ultimately you have a choice as far as, what do I have control over?

Thane Calder
Thane Calder

Hi everyone and welcome to Mojo Moments, I’m your host Thane Calder.

Today’s episode is a bonus, it’s from our conversation with Helen Antoniou. Great coach, she works with executives and their teams to find their mojo. So she’s like the secret behind the mojo.

During our talk, she actually mentioned how to deal with change, especially situations where you’re forced, when you’re put in a bad situation or in a crisis… And if you think about it, we’re dealing with a whack-load of change these days. And her secret to that is, you actually do have a choice. And sometimes that choice might even just be in your own mind. So here it is, listen up.

Thane
Thane

And so it’s like change management... cause we're living in massive change right now. Like what are the tenants? Like, what do you take away from your days in change management and how would that apply for people's lives today that are dealing with constant change and unknowns?

Helen
Helen

In large organizations, one of the hardest things about change management is the notion of the effectiveness of communication, and the feeling that people might get, that they're imposed something as opposed to choosing something. And the understanding of why we're doing this, and why are you disrupting my day to day when it was so set? 

These soft skills of, you know, listening and the soft skills of explaining in ways that people will get it and buy into it is so fundamental, and it seems so simple, but it's very difficult to do. Even today, it's like really step back, especially now, these days we're in emergency and we're in urgency states. So everyone is sort of, their nose to the ground. We got to save the situation, we have... our business is going bad... How do you step back, figure out who your stakeholders are, and then figure out what is the way that I can speak to them so that they can really understand why I'm doing this, and help them just get on board as opposed to imposing it.

Thane
Thane

But it's interesting the way, you set up like, the big issue is people feeling imposed upon. 

Helen
Helen

Yes.

Thane
Thane

And not having a choice. And like here we have almost the whole planet or a good chunk of the planet, at various stages, you know, a lot of people being imposed this thing, not out of choice.

Helen
Helen

Yeah. But we have - we do still have choices in certain things. So you don't have choices as far as I have to - I go to my office to do my work, I have to stay at home; I'm confined I'm limited... but, ultimately you have a choice on what's the attitude you're gonna choose to take in this condition.

And ultimately you have a choice as far as what do I have control over? Well, I have control over how I want to manage my days. And trust me... I mean, I have young kids, the control doesn't feel like it's there, but you do certainly have a choice on how you approach it. If you take a stance of victimhood, if you take the stance that you have no choice, it becomes much, much harder to bear it, I think.

Thane
Thane

You made me flash on something that I instinctively turned to, early COVID days. I'd say early April was probably my darker moment in this COVID period. Cause like March, it was like, okay, we got a lot of things to do to get going.

And then, my read of the tea leaves was like, this is dark, like economically and all that stuff. And I wasn't alone, I think a lot of people were feeling this. And so I turned to - I was like, who, who inspires me the most? And I was like, Nelson Mandela. 

I was like, that guy spent 28 years in jail. So I started digging up, like, Googling, like, things or, you know, how he dealt with that. And I came across an interesting article how, and I'm just riffing off your, you know, “choosing,” is, he was all about that. So here he was in jail.

Helen
Helen

Yeah.

Thane
Thane

And then he made choices on how he was going to live his life in jail.

So he would spend his days, like in the fields, crushing rock under the beating sun, okay? You know, talk about physical labor and then, it didn't matter, every night, I mean, every morning when he got up, he'd get up before the required hour, like at five or something and do a workout in his jail cell.

Despite the fact that he had this whole day of doing a workout, he would do that. And I think the journalist is like, why would you do that? And he goes, cause I could choose to do that.

Helen
Helen

Yeah. It's huge. I think it's, I think it's a big, big deal. I mean, but I'm a fan of Victor Frankel's so if you've ever read any of his stuff, it's all about... I think it's determinism or self-determinism. And so it really is about this notion of choice. And I think that's all you have to hang on to, but it is interesting this period of COVID, that we've gone through and that we're going through.

Thane
Thane

So there you have it. There’s some great advice from our friend Helen Antoniou, and I highly recommend, if you want to hear her full conversation, we have a great full podcast. 

I want to thank Helen again for coming on the show, and if you like this podcast, share it around, and definitely give it a high rating on the review section. If you have six stars, do that. That’d be awesome. 

Playing us out is Chris Velan. Take care, speak soon. 

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